Legislature(1999 - 2000)

05/06/1999 02:20 PM Senate TRA

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            HB 131-ANCHORAGE COASTAL WILDLIFE REFUGE                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 013                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEFF LOGAN, staff to sponsor Representative Green, stated HB
131 returns to the legislature the authority to approve surface                                                                 
transportation rights-of-way and easements in the Anchorage Coastal                                                             
Wildlife Refuge.  The bill was introduced at the request of a                                                                   
number of South Anchorage residents who have an interest in                                                                     
protecting the habitat values in the Anchorage Coastal Wildlife                                                                 
Refuge (ACWR).                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HALFORD asked what the ACWR will be protected from.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOGAN replied HB 131 will protect it from a surface                                                                         
transportation corridor. The Municipality of Anchorage (MOA)                                                                    
estimates about 80% of "developable" land in the Anchorage bowl is                                                              
in South Anchorage and directly abuts the ACWR.  Before any type of                                                             
development occurs that might include surface transportation or                                                                 
require a right-of-way or easement in the refuge, the sponsor would                                                             
like the legislature to have final approval.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN brought up an amendment suggested to her that would                                                             
delete "surface transportation" on line 12 and insert "a bike path                                                              
or trail," to limit legislative oversight to the coastal trail and                                                              
ensure the State does not later run into problems if the railroad                                                               
upgrades or realigns existing tracks, or if the state expands the                                                               
Seward Highway to a four-lane road.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 077                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOGAN commented a lot of attention has been drawn to the bill                                                               
by people who think it is an effort to kill the proposed extension                                                              
of a bike trail.  He thought Senator Lincoln's proposed language                                                                
might make it look even more like that is the sponsor's intent.                                                                 
Representative Green is not worried about that specific project but                                                             
he does think legislative oversight of a railroad extension could                                                               
be a good thing.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 100                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN asked if the Alaska Railroad Corporation (ARRC)                                                                 
decides to upgrade or realigns existing tracks, HB 131 would                                                                    
require prior legislative approval.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked Mr. Logan to provide Senator Lincoln with an                                                                
answer to her question during the meeting.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PATRICK WRIGHT, Chairman of the Anchorage Fish and Game Advisory                                                                
Committee, stated the Advisory Committee met on April 27 at which                                                               
time it reviewed HB 131.    Eleven of the 15 members were present                                                               
and all voted to support HB 131.  The Advisory Committee has a long                                                             
history of concerns about the ACWR.  HB 131 will help to protect                                                                
habitat against any future development.  The Advisory Committee's                                                               
concerns are about the habitat and uses of that area.  The Advisory                                                             
Committee opposes any coastal trail that is below the top of the                                                                
bluff.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 170                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RON CRENSHAW, President of the Anchorage Trails Coalition, stated                                                               
the Coalition is confused about legislative involvement in this                                                                 
issue at this time.  He questioned whether the issue concerns                                                                   
discussions about the shooting range being jeopardized by a new                                                                 
trail.  [The remainder of Mr. Crenshaw's testimony was inaudible.]                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DOUG PERKINS, President of the Bayshore Platte Community Council,                                                               
consisting of 11,000 residents who border the Anchorage Coastal                                                                 
Wildlife Refuge, stated support for HB 131.  He called the                                                                      
committee's attention to a study conducted by Wayne Pishaun [ph]                                                                
faxed to committee members.  He noted the ACWR issue is not a local                                                             
issue because ACWR is state land.  If HB 131 passes, the                                                                        
Legislature will be taking back control from DOTPF and ADF&G.                                                                   
Despite ADF&G's strong opposition to a trail through the refuge,                                                                
DOTPF recommends that the refuge be considered for a possible trail                                                             
route.  He urged committee members to pass the bill from committee.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DEANNA ESSERT, spokesperson for the Sand Lakes Community Council,                                                               
and representative for AMAT, the working advisory group for the                                                                 
South coastal trail, made the following comments.  The Sand Lakes                                                               
Community Council unanimously supported a resolution keeping the                                                                
refuge as is.  At present there are nine access points to the ACWR.                                                             
Additional development of these access points should be considered,                                                             
and legislative oversight should be provided.  Sand Lakes supports                                                              
preserving the refuge for the wildlife and for those who come to                                                                
view and photograph the wildlife.   Destruction of the nesting and                                                              
breeding areas of waterfowl by allowing hundreds of recreation-                                                                 
oriented runners, bikers, and joggers is completely unacceptable.                                                               
All of the recreational groups have been represented in this                                                                    
discussion, however no representatives for the elderly or                                                                       
handicapped have participated.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 314                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RANDY HOFFBECK, Park Beautification Manager for the MOA, testified                                                              
in opposition to HB 131.  The language in HB 131 limits the                                                                     
potential options for the south extension of the coastal trail.                                                                 
This will come at the very time the public involvement process for                                                              
this trail project is underway.  The public involvement process is                                                              
intended to bring together all interested parties to discuss the                                                                
guidelines that will be used to determine approval of the location                                                              
of the trail.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOFFBECK reminded the Committee that the Anchorage Coastal                                                                  
Management Plan that was adopted by the Municipality of Anchorage                                                               
in 1979 had final approval from the Legislature in 1980 and allowed                                                             
for the local governments to develop and implement their own                                                                    
program to suit local needs.  The Alaska Coastal Wildlife Refuge                                                                
was created by the State Legislature in 1988.  After significant                                                                
input, the Anchorage Coastal Wildlife Refuge Management Plan was                                                                
published by the ADF&G in 1991 allowing that under certain                                                                      
conditions, coastal trail access may be allowed within the Refuge.                                                              
This was later crystallized in the Anchorage Area wide Trail Plan                                                               
which had years of public process.  Even without legislative                                                                    
approval, there has already been lots of public input.  Legislative                                                             
approval is not necessary as they will not establish protection of                                                              
the habitat which is already protected.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. JANE ANGVICK, Director, Division of Lands, opposed HB 131.  The                                                             
bill requires legislative approval of executive branch action.  The                                                             
fear is that it would require oversight for any future realignment                                                              
of the Seward Highway with the Alaska Railroad.  She encouraged                                                                 
them to consider Senator Lincoln's amendment.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 365                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN responded that a note before her says the                                                                       
Railroad's 200 ft. right-of-way might accommodate the language in                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANGVIK replied that she wasn't sure, but thought this bill                                                                  
would affect the right-of-way of the Railroad and causes                                                                        
significant concerns.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. MIKE SZYMANSKI said he drafted the original legislation that                                                                
passed ultimately in 1988.  The proposed amendment was inserted                                                                 
after he negotiated with the Cook Inlet Regional Corporation who                                                                
wanted access to Fire Island.  The second section was first                                                                     
intended to give specific geographic locations for access, but he                                                               
was assured alignment would be better if developed through the                                                                  
existing public process.  He thought the only reason for the                                                                    
legislation was to try and throw a road block into the ultimate                                                                 
decision process for any type of extension to the coastal trail.                                                                
If the adjacent land owners are the only ones who have access, it                                                               
is an extremely difficult situation because 98% of the access is                                                                
from the bluff.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMILIE SHIELDS said he is a Doctor of Biology in animal                                                                     
behavior and ecology.  He thought the ACWR is such valuable habitat                                                             
that there is no way it should be risked at any point.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There are many risks with putting a bike trail in a marsh.  For                                                                 
instance, the wind blows too hard sometimes for a person to ride in                                                             
it.  He supported HB 131.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD noted that Mr. David Carter, who had to leave,                                                                    
supported HB 131.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 479                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. DICK BISHOP, Alaska Outdoor Council, said they are proud of                                                                 
Alaska's record of providing support for outdoor recreational                                                                   
opportunities.  He thought this hearing and the legislative process                                                             
was part of the public process.  He was with ADF&G at the time this                                                             
Refuge was created and recalled the prolonged and sometimes                                                                     
contentious efforts to establish and sustain the Refuge and the                                                                 
rifle range.  He appreciated Senator Szymanski's efforts.  However,                                                             
he was concerned with some uses that might detract from some of the                                                             
traditional values and uses of this particular Refuge.  There are                                                               
decades of experience with the interplay of competing agendas and                                                               
how the interests of wildlife conservation and traditional uses,                                                                
such as hunting, viewing, shooting, fishing may suffer if not                                                                   
insulated from rapidly growing competing uses.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He thought it was within the Legislature's purview and their                                                                    
responsibility to oversee the continued integrity of state refuges.                                                             
HB 131 properly meets that responsibility.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. DENNIS POSHARD, DOT/PF said they are sensitive to the concerns                                                              
of people regarding the ACWR.  They have a project in conjunction                                                               
with AMATS in the root analysis and preliminary engineering stage                                                               
that will be directly affected by passage of HB 131.  He explained                                                              
that the southern extension is being developed by AMATS.  This                                                                  
project is the missing link between trails heading north out of                                                                 
Anchorage on the Glenn and Parks Highways and south out of                                                                      
Anchorage on the Seward Highway.  The process of planning how to                                                                
extend the coastal trail from Kincaid Park shelter south is                                                                     
currently under way with the first public meeting being held on                                                                 
March 31.  They are going through an extensive public process; no                                                               
decision has been made on any particular alternative.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He pointed out that the Anchorage Coastal Wildlife Refuge                                                                       
Management Plan, published by ADF&G states that "coastal trail                                                                  
access may be allowed within the Refuge where disturbance to fish                                                               
and wildlife populations and their habitat is avoided, where safety                                                             
considerations and conflicts to existing refuge uses including                                                                  
water fowl, hunting, and rifle range use, and where compatible with                                                             
management of refuge public access points in the goals of this                                                                  
management plan.  This is a pretty big burden for them to meet.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Additionally, since they are using federal funding for the                                                                      
extension project, the environmental process will have to be in                                                                 
conformance with the National Environmental Protection Act.  HB 131                                                             
would add an additional approval step to the project process if                                                                 
some portion of the trail is proposed to be located within the                                                                  
Refuge adding time and expense to the development.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The language of the bill shifts the responsibility for land use                                                                 
management of ACWR from ADF&G to the Alaska Legislature and could                                                               
influence the development of potential alignments and bias the need                                                             
for process.  The Legislature ultimately has control of the project                                                             
through the budget process.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He pointed out that there are other urban wildlife refuges in this                                                              
state that have bike trails in them - one in Juneau and one in                                                                  
Fairbanks.  They are highly used and will thought of.  ADF&G has                                                                
stated clearly they will not issue any permit for any trail                                                                     
alignment that goes across the ACWR, but that is not true.  They                                                                
have concerns, but have not stated they will not issue a permit.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Regarding Senator Lincoln's concern about the Railroad and Seward                                                               
Highway and whether this bill could affect those, he discussed it                                                               
with Dave Eberly, Director of Construction and Operations for the                                                               
Central Region and with Jim Kubitz, Vice President of Real Estate                                                               
and Planning for the Railroad.  Mr. Kubitz confirmed that they do                                                               
have a 200 ft. right-of-way for the Railroad.  The Seward Highway                                                               
is two lane as it goes through the marsh, but it's given that it                                                                
will become a four lane at some point.  It's envisioned that the                                                                
two lanes of the highway could take over the existing railroad bed                                                              
and move the railroad further away from the Potter's Marsh area.                                                                
He didn't know if that could be done within the 200 ft. corridor.                                                               
So this bill could have an effect on that project when it happens.                                                              
Removing surface transportation and adding trails in Senator                                                                    
Lincoln's amendment would narrow the focus of the bill to what it's                                                             
really about.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN asked how much time there is between the time a                                                                 
project is conceived until they need the legislative approval.                                                                  
Could it miss one legislative session.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. POSHARD replied that the process would normally end at the                                                                  
environmental stage after receiving appropriate permits from ADF&G,                                                             
the Corps of Engineers for the wetlands.  Now they would be forced                                                              
to take an additional step when the environmental document comes                                                                
out to take it to the legislature and go through the whole                                                                      
committee process.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 99-12, SIDE B                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN clarified that she meant if they missed the                                                                     
legislature's 120 day cycle, would that put them back one or two                                                                
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. POSHARD answered that would depend on when they completed the                                                               
environmental document.  He didn't think it would set them back                                                                 
more than a year.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN asked if he understood HB 131 to apply to any type                                                              
of surface transportation like a bridge.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. POSHARD said that was his understanding.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD noted there was no more testimony.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN said she was still unsure what would happen if they                                                             
left "surface transportation."  She moved to delete "surface                                                                    
transportation" and insert "a bike path or trail" on page 1, line                                                               
12.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD objected.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN said there is a public process in place and right                                                               
now the concern is the bike path and trails.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATORS PEARCE, HALFORD, and LINCOLN voted yes; SENATOR WARD voted                                                             
no and the amendment was adopted.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WARD announced that there were no further comments from the                                                             
committee and that they would hold HB 131.                                                                                      

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